Only a man of honor and the highest moral rectitude could write such moving verse. Oh no, Dr. Parker… All the comments, here, are for thought and consideration. No apologies needed!
While I am staid and proper in my own ways, I enjoy the perversity of thought. I admit I like pretty women of all ages and persuasion , but I strive never to be improper in my conduct toward them. Like yesterday if not sooner. No panic, just end it. This was despicable in my opinion. BTW eventually that person did offend and paid the ultimate price.
This is a disturbing read in its blatancy but not surprising as anyone who has read my blog will attest. From the very beginning, ten years ago, I have focused on this illness that is now blossoming into huge businesses. I was back then completely unaware of the Talmudic aspect of these things. As I worked on this and other perverse materials over the years, of course I learned the source of the decadence.
Hence the last article listed below comes across as sincere and a tad naive. I did not understand the Noahide connection…. Anyhow, now I feel dirty having looked and considered these things for far too long on a sunny summer morning. Time to go jump in the pool and clear both head and spirit.
Thanks for the five invaluable links supplied. As the year anniversary of the still unsolved murder of his sister nears, Ramsey, who has never spoken to the media, breaks his silence. I am guessing this will make both bank accounts even bigger. Making their exploitation profits from tragedies. MK ultra runs deep. There is no doubt as I have learned from past studying of this family, based on the behavior of other such families, that JonBenet was not the only abused child here.
If so, an alter could make him totally believe what he is saying, despite the truth being otherwise. An alter can easily fool all forms of lie detectors even though the truth might be vastly different. Leave Gil alone. He spoke his personal truth and for that he is to be condemned?
A man is only partly in control of his thoughts, the sin begins when he refuses to control his actions. What is she, would you call her a trollop, a whore? Should those boys reserve their curiosity only for women certifiably over 18?
This is a goddamn minefield, walk carefully because hypocrisy is a deadly sin. There was a time in my puberty when the thoughts of sex persecuted me so much, day and night that I literally prayed to god to release me, was envious of the elders who were over that hump and could think about other things in life — was I a pervert at the age 14?
Judgement is based on answers. You have all the answers without ever bothering to ask any questions. Point the finger, lightning bolt zaps the offender, done — this is Jew magic. It is called the Mosaic law. Then they reminded Jesus that adultery was punishable by stoning under MOSAIC law and challenged him to judge the woman so that they might then accuse him of disobeying the law.
Right you are, Lobro! Horses and cattle are bred for conformation and purpose — not people unfortunately. Therein lies the danger of all this psychoanalysis. Regarding that video of William Pierce : it is of course entirely to be expected that those who are behind this attempt to sexualize little girls are Jews. They are themselves sexually highly perverted including by pedophilia , and they promote their own perversion to undermine us Goyim.
Melvin is still languishing in concentration camp. Mel deserved it.. The thought of anyone being attracted to pre-pubescent children is completely beyond me. I know, for example, that the overwhelming majority of teens today are sexually active, some starting at 12 years old. When I was at school, the thought never crossed my mind. Paedophilia will be legalized. Homosexuality was merely the precursor, that opened the door to allow tabboos back into society.
I find this really disturbing and as you know, I certainly scrape and sever tendons in discussion, being able to talk about almost everything, but this, well……. Urges are just that, an elemental force that did not arise consciously and must be fought and controlled.
We, each of us, is given a unique set of problems to try and solve and a unique quiz of questions to try and answer — this is the whole of life, and nothing else. He reads it to get answers to his own questions, right? None of us can help Don, not Dr Green, not Dr Parker, not Dr Darkmoon, not me either, which is why i only have a glancing interest in these murky subjects of pain and torment, can only be glad that I am free and clear, just like I am free and clear of say, bone cancer, another field of pain and torment, where i am helpless to aid the sufferers.
They must make their peace with the world and move on to the finish line on their own, ignore the hook-beaked vultures lining the roadside. The Talmud is the sleazy substrata of a religious system gone terribly astray….
And it even sanctions one of the greatest sins of all: child molestation. And I say, The Talmud is the sleazy substrata of a satanic system gone terribly according to plan. They are born into the breeding program like horses are born into racing stables and though some have the strength to pull themselves free of this quagmire of vice, most cannot and sink ever deeper into it.
This is Talmud and its biomass. So this is where I hit a wall of sorts, what mind conceived such a program, i simply cannot picture some neanderthal camel humper with this comprehensive understanding and sophistication, so that even in the time of Jesus they already had an excellent grasp of banking and financial mischief, those temple moneychangers were every bit as sharp as Madoff or Nathan Rothschild. I think that the entire ministry of Jesus had one sole purpose: to vaccinate the world against this disease.
And by and large he seems to have failed, even though some macrophages are still in business, still fighting the battle — we are the proof. When he had enough of their crap…. If unconvicted advocates of Child predation were found skinned alive I think a most useful message would be transmitted. There is something to be said for the proper use of Force Majeure.
Then we could get started on the jews in Hollywood. In about years these problems would become extremely rare. In an anarchy there would be no paedophiles in religion, banking, politics, the police, the judiciary, the armed forces and other establishments within society.
And yet, every hollywood movie, msm article on anarchy promotes it as a hell on earth. I wonder why? Ironically democratic societies protect bad, whereas anarchy protects good. People have still not cottoned on yet to this simple fact. Just this past year in Texas, a father caught a man raping his very young daughter. The father beat the guy to death with his bear hands then called They thought about bring chafes against the father for beating the perp to death, but decided not to do it because they did not think they could get a jury to convict the father.
The crime rate was real close to zero. Law enforcement was one patrol car that passed through every Sunday afternoon at PM. If anyone had called the police, it would have taken them a couple hours to show up. Every household was armed. Criminals had no protection from law enforcement.
Things worked quite well. No one worried about their children being out and about playing. There were no jews in the surrounding area, just a few pseudo jews called Freemasons that most everyone kept a close eye on.
We lived about yards from a general store. My 9 year old sister used to go to the store to buy candy whenever she had money. One day she came home and told me about the owner, in his fifties, of the store trying to kiss her. I informed my older brother about the incident so he and I went to the store and explained what we would physically do to him if he ever attempted to bother our sister or any other girl again.
We did not tell our dad for fear of immediate physical consequences to the store owner. The store owner must have believed we were sincere, we were, and nothing ever happened after that.
Anarchy works.. Same thing for NS Germany. Of course anarchy works. Because everybody on the planet is exactly the same and has the same ideas about right or wrong. Ungenius, you have never lived in anarchy. That was precisely because in those day there still was such a thing called law and order and people, including those in law enforcement, still knew what was wrong or right. There has never been any long lived anarchy in the entire history of planet earth.
The alternative is to always stay an underdeveloped little community of which its members have to be all exactly the same. It is precisely because we are all different as individuals that there has to be a set of rules — that everybody will agree to — and that everybody should abide to.
Because you see, there really is such a thing as common interest. Anarchy could only work if everybody was exactly the same, had the same personality, the same virtues, the same world view, the same ambition, the same intelligence, the same morals, the same emotions, etc.
Die hard anarchists and libertarians make the same mistake. Well, history has proven them wrong. There were many real governments before traitor gentile aristocracy started playing ball with jew.
You think for example that Amazone Indians live in anarchy? No way. They have laws which have to be respected by everyone. No anarchy can exist because nature itself is highly anti-anarchist. There wil be rule, so everything stands or falls with what kind of rulers rule. Nothing mysterious about that.
I might point out once again that anarchy worked for Spain until centralized government stepped in to correct the situation to their satisfaction. For most, the amazing thing about the Talmud is its sheer size. Most people think the Talmud, like the Bible or Koran, is but a single volume. Few people realize it comprises twenty separate volumes; a work in progress that contains some 3. Like the OT, the Talmud is all about the law. As with any Jewish legal effort, the Talmud attempts to address, define and govern every conceivable human action.
The law is the foundation of Jewish power; that is why law is so important to Jews and why they study it from their earliest age. It is what young boys study in the Yeshiva, receiving little gold stars for successfully arguing and winning Talmudic points of law.
It is how the Jews win arguments with god. Thus it should come as no surprise that Jews decry anarchy in the same manner as they do German National Socialism. Like the original Old Testament, its modern counterpart is essentially the legal library for Judaism. At the time it was considered a huge compilation of Temple legality. Only much later did it become condensed into a single volume.
From a literary standpoint, the Old Testament is the worst book ever written. The most glaring issue is the total lack of continuity in the stories. Characters and situations arise and then fade only to be resurrected several chapters later. The multiple meanings of words that must be read in context to be properly understood, along with indefinable jargon add up to a literary abortion that only the most devout are able to pursue.
True to the intent, those outside the inner circle of Jewish experts have little or no idea of what they are reading. While the outsider believes they are reading an historical account or the inerrant word of god, Jewish experts know the Bible is nothing more then the rude beginning of their rule of law. Today, while it is still technically possible for one to represent themselves in court, such attempts are heavily discouraged by Judges who caution people not to try representing themselves.
Thus, Americans are subject to laws they can nether understand, define or argue before those august, judicial bodies dressed in appropriate black robes. This was exactly the situation Jesus was addressing in the first century. I actually wrote this post in late August or early September. We just all have so many opinions! And it hurts to think that all the negatives in the second column the non-wealthy, non-millionaire traits are supposed to be describing us! Whether or not we are rich or poor or somewhere in between, there is a great deal of differences of how people live within and outside of our communities.
It is hard to see homeless people walking around begging. Leaving chronic poverty aside for the moment, ten percent of americans do not have any work at all. The one thing that distinguishes the rich, beyond luck, is that they often focus on making money as a purpose in life, rather than a means to an end. Most people want more money in to spend it. Its not money that they want, its what money can buy. My mindset has always been the same.
So like you, J. I also think a big difference is support to be thinking rich. If you want to change your life, I would suggest you read his books. Actually if you do any research you will find his biographical accounts, including of his father, are fabricated.
Kiyosaki rubs me the wrong way because he is very comfortable passing off fables as real events or people. He initially marketed it through some multi-level marketing scam and those sleazy seminars, too. That book was a lie. This is fine if all you want to do is amass wealth: You can stick this up in your office and practice those traits. For one thing, correlation does not imply causation.
Second, what correlation? These statements are based on what? I like that these types of laws are fundamentally universal. Yes, many of you are right that this is not ordinary GRS post, but I like it very much. Many of the comments seem like denying that the mindset plays enormous role in getting rich. Even to get rich slowly you have to develop specific mindset. I would say that both lists are true, but these characteristics are not exclusive. I wanted to say that it does not mean that everybody who, for example, acts in spite of fear or think big, will be rich.
I actually really liked this article. For example, I sometimes find I am too risk-adverse. I agree with you Tina. But some open-minded personal reflection leads me to certain conclusions: that while I am young and our household income is solidly upper-middle class, I will always be a slave to wages since I cannot mentally deal with an uneven cash flow. I enjoy my downtime, hobbies, and passive entertainment TV, internet too much to dedicate extra time outside of my hour workweek to finding multiple streams of income side job, blogging, freelance work, etc.
Steve, As a health care professional, I think your comments regarding mental health clients are inappropriate, demeaning and demonstrates a complete lack of understanding and respect for the complex mental health issues that many people face. The root cause of their victimization and dependence is often tied to: learned helplessness, institutionalization, pathology, social stigma and inequality social and financial among many other factors that are external to the self.
You are correct in the sense that a complex issue cannot be boiled down into two sentences in the comments section of a blog. I second what Tina said. I think people are reading too much into this article — the point is to get you thinking about your attitude toward what you can accomplish with the resources available to you, including how you decide to perceive the world around you.
I think the better question to ask is what is the difference between the comfortable-living middle class and the paycheck-to-paycheck middle class. Comparing the behaviors and mindset of rich and poor may be an interesting thought experiment, but I think it can lead to conflating whether the behavior is a cause or effect of economic status. This would have been a much more interesting topic to cover for a blog post here. Those are labels we apply to other people only and it makes these stupid lists irrelevant.
I know many people I consider rich and many I think are poor, but only comparing my situation against what I know of theirs. I think this is the thing that middle class people often understand least — they made all sorts of mistakes growing up and even now that might have bad consequences but not life-changing-dramtically-for-the-worse consequences. Thank you for this. Blaming the poor and saying that if they changed their mindset that they could become rich ignores things like racism, disabilities, lack of access to education, and a whole host of other factors.
If everyone started a race at the same time, then the person who worked hardest and was most determined to win would be rewarded. The only problem that I see with your comment is that you assume life is a race with each other.
In reality it is only a race with ourselves. We would never be able to win with that thought lingering in our mind. We are in essence keeping ourselves from truly winning. As for me, if someone has a head start over me, I accept the challenge. Of the first 20 top-level comments, 11 or 12 are responses to the idea that there is a difference between rich and poor people, rather than to any of the differences discussed in the article. The middle class has only one or two.
Just LIES. On the face of it, these types of lists are trite and simplistic. On the other hand, I could boil it down even further. All of the above is a huge jump start to socioeconomic success.
There are some people who are value money above all else and will do whatever they need to in order to obtain as much of it as possible, and based on this devotation naturally exhibit many of the characteristics on the list. There are some people who act like victims of their life and based on that mindset, they will exhibit characteristics of those listed as poor.
There are many who are poor who cannot afford to take as many risks because the consequences are more dire to jump without a safety net. Read the book that is who he talks about self-made millionares, not ones who are given their money.
JD, I appreciated this article. While I do not agree with either Eker or Smith entirely, it is good to engage these lists and see what we can learn. I live in an area with many people who would be considered poor. It is definitely a lot different from the area where I grew up which was middle class. Living here has opened my eyes to just how differently people live. There are many people where I live who work very hard and are not able to gain wealth, they can only seem to maintain.
There is so much of this sensationalistic and cliched books out there that claim to teach how to get rich. Apart from J.
While I do believe there are people from poor backgrounds that do step into middle class and wealth, I think that there are alot more thngs in their way then their lack of imagination and positive attitude. I had to respond to these lists largely because of the flawed assumption people make that poverty as in being materially poor is a personality defect and has nothing whatsoever to do with structural issues.
Clearly, this is not true when you have an educational and a health system funded by property values which gives the Rich the luxury of opportunity that allows them to see opportunities and to believe their choosing creates their own lives, which does not exist among the poor who do not have options. To me, this article smacks of elitism and ignorance about the real world. I think these are ridiculous gross generalizations. Then we can start a real conversation.
This is just plain insulting, this list. You have traveled all over the world and yet you condone this kind of know-it-all attitude about the poor?? I expect more from this blog. What he encountered, other than lots and lots of sacrifice which we can all agree is a good strategy towards bettering yourself was constant slipping into debt because of medical problems brought about by his very difficult jobs. It was very sobering. They have the nice car, nice house, nanny, etc.
But they are living paycheque to paycheque. Unfortunately, Eker says, most of us have faulty blueprints that prevent us from building wealth. I skipped a lot of the comments because it seemed as if a lot of people got offended for some reason. I can tell you that I agree with both lists. The mentality in the hood is tread water, not learn how to swim to shore. Excellent post, Kyra.
Broke people think like rich people save money, live within your means, give thanks for your many blessings, love others but are at a point in life where their income is low. They are trending upward. This is a mentality can be passed down through generations. They are either stagnant or trending downward. Most of us started as poor thinkers as kids. To both Kyra and Evan H. I think this one book has done me the most good and will continue to do so.
The little decisions we make every day add up to a huge difference in our life. I am taking responsibility for myself and my situation. Nobody owes me a thing. How did you get here? How did you get a visa? Where did you sleep the first day when you arrived? Where did you learn English?
We cannot just get rid psychopaths for example. We are still responsible for taking care of them and helping them survive but that has to be in a way where they can no longer harm innocent human beings…. You people are silly.. I have read most of these comments and most are technical and very scientific. I applaud research being done to see wherein lies the cause of the illness. However, there is nothing technical or scientific about living with a psychopath. My father killed his first small pet animal at the age of five, and lied to his mother about what happened.
And the rest is my herstory. My father, today at the age of 87, remains an emotional, psychological and physical abuser of all women that have had the misfortune to be in his lair.
He is like a lion, he goes for the weakest part of the body, the heart. He destroys girls and women and leaves them in his dust. Men hate him because he lies and manipulates them too. He gains great pleasure insulting races, religions, lifestyles, homes, clothes, pets, cars…housekeeping skills. There is nothing he does not sneer at, even education and career choices. He sits in judgment over all of his, and not his, domain. I would like to see research being done on identifying and believing the kids that are at risk to these freaks.
And the women that marry them. There has to be help somewhere for those trapped in the houses of these creeps. The houses are nice the man very well dressed, the women and kids are presentable…but, he is the peacock.
There needs to be questionaires in schools about how safe a child feels at home. A wife needs to be asked in a doctors office, or somewhere safe, how safe she feels.. I needed a champion, I needed saving, I needed a home and love. I needed someone to listen to me and take me away from him. My mother and sister needed this too…but sadly, none of us made it out in one piece. My mother had her first nervous breakdown when I was 7. That destroyed her…it was a temporary fix for a problem caused by him.
He is the one that should have had EST. She moved right back in with the cause of her illness. She had two more. When I was 13 my 18 year old sister had a nervous breakdown and hid in her room for 2 years with ulcers. Guess who caused it.
Guess who did nothing. I was an A plus student and had never misbehaved. I was an honors piano student and all of my teachers loved me. This psychopath threatened to kill me. Why you ask.
Because I dared to tell the mother of a school chum that my father was mean. I had never voiced those words before. It got back to my father.. My mother bless her does not even remember it happening so she blocked it out with many other things he did.
She ended up with Frontal Lobe damage and at 82 she remembers little now from my childhood or hers. This waste of skin ruined my mothers mental health then proceeded to cheat on her for years before finally leaving us hi and dry when I was 17, for a woman that was only 3 years older then my sister.
I will not bore you with details.. She went from a scared hermit to full blown psychopathy, manipulation, lies, cheating, rage. I quit talking to her 4 years ago. I escaped this horrid life destroying gene, thank God. After years of cat and mouse with both of them I disowned them. I am almost 60 and I am finally in the healing process. As a child I was the only kid I knew that did not have love.
I lived a completely loveless life.. I had 2 divorces from manipulative mean men. I had so much love to give…but my daughter has benefited from all of it. My father has destroyed myself and my daughter, 3 wives and one long term lady friend who he cheated on. Being a narcisstic psychopath he wanted both women. He threatened me to not to tell his lady friend. He never knew if I would or not.. It was not subtle, it was very obvious. In his arrogant and narcissistic state he thought I was too stupid to see right through him.
We rented from him and he started an eviction process, for no reason, that took him over 1. I have not spoken to him in 2. He does not care, he is merrily living his life with what everwoman he has taken up with…no remorse, no guilt, no accountability for causing his own daughter and granddaughter, to have a breakdown over the eviction.
It was very difficult to fight a professional liar and manipulator to not be homeless. He pulled every trick in the book…but he forgot I am not stupid. We fought long and hard but he won…but, in the end, we won.
We disowned him and he will never see us again, or know where we live. The weeping is done.. We won. A true psychopath does not know they are a psychopath, they think they are brilliant and indestructible.
They love power and control and the high they get from hurting others. By the way, my father came from a large, bible believing, loving, normal busy farm family with a mother that was a good woman and a father that all siblings respected. None of his siblings were like him one bit. He thought they were all idiots. Enough said. Thanks you for sharing this, Lilacorn, and good that you and your daughter have made it out.
He also, later during senior high, followed and assaulted one other boy, because this boy had accidentally bumped into him in the hallway once. Viper also dated a girl and the relationship became emotionally abusive, eventually escalating to physical violence and in-your-face overt verbal abuse and domination.
The girl did escape, though, and got help, even though Viper managed to avoid accountability thanks to some slick lies, evasions and back-up from his female friend whose head he had filled with thoughts like his. Your father sounds like him in so many ways, except even more extreme and of course, also psychopathic, with control-freakery and malignant narcissism quadruple servings.
Interesting detail here. They are still fully conscious of what they are like. Perhaps some could know what the word is that applies to them so perfectly. My husband is a psychopath hitting all 9 qualifications on the nose. He is presently incarcerated, obviously. We have a 2 month old baby boy in my care so naturally I have dedicated myself to research linking psychopathy, sociopathy to genetic predisposition. Some days I feel like we are miles ahead of anything catching up to my sweet little baby boy, other days I am so afraid for him that I sink into depression for days.
We all want to pave a smooth road for our children, so their lives are easier than ours were. But I am up against a wall. I keep a very watchful eye out everyday for any kind of sign that he may exhibit that shows he is different. So far his startle reflex is fully functional which is extremely relieving!!!
Anything else will take time to gauge. Hi, I am new here and it does seem that most here have been speaking for some time.
I came on here due to wanting to understand what made a psychopath … and if it was genetic. Over the years I came to realize that most likely one or both of my parents were psychopaths. The forms of abuse were holding head under water, while beating with plastic to not leave a mark. This was one of the best and clearest. It was not to teach it was torture! This incident went back some forty or more years. We were talking about things that happened…and she was in blaming mode.
My father who was a drunk was pretty abusive…so he almost always was put into the role of the bad guy. In the conversation with my mother she said something about a dog. I wanted her to realize how insane it was for a child of 10 to have to take the dead and rotting body of a dog out of the basement, dig a 5 to 7 ft hole carry the carcass over 25 ft,and bury it! I was 10 years old Gigi was a large doberman how could I do this. I since have realized this woman has been killing animals all of my life!
A few years back she had a one eyed cat that she kept in her basement. One day my sons and I went down to clean and feed the cat and there was a ton of this white powder all over the floor.
I asked what is this? She is a chemist…she knows! I put the cat in a cage put a mask on my face and started to clean it the best I could. As you must realize one no matter how abused never wants to really see how crazy their parents are. I spent the majority of my life in therapy. Never really telling their secrets. Usually talking about how crazy and horrible I was.
I have, had depression and anxiety nearly all of my life. My brother is also badly affected. We were most often the bad guys. My brother for being a boy and me for looking like my father. I was first told I was borderline and later diagnosis as Depressed. I have been able to pretty much function well enough to raise two very well adjusted young men. Now at 60…I look at the past and wonder how did I survive? I worked very hard at being the best parent I could be. So although this is only a synopsis of what went on are my parents Psychopaths and if so how does one not pass this sort of behavior on?
And how do you spot it before it is too late? Cher, Welcome. Your story is very sad and quite horrific. I commend you for doing your best to rise above it with your own children! You have questions that would be best answered by Dr. That is where I think you should start. I do want to encourage you to do some more reading here and feel free to join in the discussions.
People will try their best to offer you support. Yes, I meet the criterias and then some for say the least. For a dr that is supposed to have 30 years of experience in the field you seem to very biased in the sense that you paint every psychopath to be evil in some way even if not a criminal. I admit that i have not read all the articles you have written in the subject, but the few i have read seem to have the same tone and shameless self pluggin to buy your books for more on the subject.
I no longer attend therapy but as a kid I did. Not until I got older and did some research about this things my parents and psychiatrists have been telling me all my life did I truly understood that they had a name for people that were like me. And being a woman something normal women do not well as its been shown women let their emotions play a big role when making a decision even if it is a key part of something. Either consiously or unconsciously it just they way all normal people are wired.
Am I very manipulative? Every trait that I have due to my brain lacking the ability to feel empathy and remorse and not having true feelings or as its referred to being a psychopath has made me a better person in every aspect of my life. That I know for a fact. Yes, things do always have to go my way but in no sense does he feel like I abuse him to get it. Him being aware of what I am only makes him understand me more.
If anything I know in this world only the fittest survive and I will survive. We all have some things left in us from the days were truly only the fittest survived. Not all of us walk around killing people, some of us know how to get what we want without those type of actions. May, the Darwinian concept of the fittest surviving has recently been overthrown, in favour of more sophisticated understanding of complex organization.
Mushrooms, for example, rather than competing, expend far more energy cooperating through mycelial networks. And they not only cooperate together, they cooperate with trees and other plants, who btw, also cooperate more than compete with each other.
What is so tragic is that the psychopath thinks him or herself very strong and independent, yet often leads a parasitic existence, where they have to fake care and concern so that they appear to be symbiotic.
I am so sorry for your brain damage but realize that there is some small comfort for you, growing up in a society that rewards hyper competition and the wondrous philosophical efforts of fascists like, Ayn Rand. It is emotion, perception and sensation that come into play for survival.
And many full blown psychopaths end up alone and on the scrap heap. Not exactly survival of the fittest! Also they cannot stand to be alone. Emotion is exactly what keeps people from being alone, it helps form connections on a deeper level. I would think that in the end is what fizzles out all relationships, and he may move on but of course you will be equipped to deal with that as you say.
Their brains just work differently and they are not nasty people either. There in lies the difference, someone who is nasty is harmful, simple but the truth, regardless if their a psychopath or not! And I could add to my post or go back to fix the grammatical errors but after all it really does seem like only children read it so its not like its going to matter anyway. I think anyone can understand even something this basic.
So yes, you are welcome. My comment was a comment meant to stand on its own. Thank you May! I think , too, that May, does have emotion, as primitive as it must be. Being irritated, particularly in the extreme, is an emotion. How exactly is it that most psycopaths live a parasitic lifestyle? One the parasite benefits therefore the other one is being harmed or at least having some negative effects. Not once did I harm anyone by doing so and since it was something taught to me at first from my psychiatrists it was not one sided or just beneficial to me.
Not only they were the ones teaching me, but I know they also learned from me to help other psycopaths that may become their client later on.
Feelings and emotions are just fine May and it is possible, and not uncommon, to be able to have feelings and emotions yet also make decisions using your brain as well. Simon, This kind of threw me……. Do you mean that most are employed, live independently, etc?
Does this make sense? I think I will print it, laminate it and carry it in my wallet! If they have the capacity to compartmentalize does that mean at times they can show some form of empathy but at others can switch it off so they can do the horrible things they do? And I expound a bit about it in my book Character Disturbance as well. I reference this in some of my posts on the subject and also frequently at workshops.
Predatory, homicidal pedophiles are notorious for this kind of behavior as well. Acting compassionate because it furthers your agenda and fleshes out your mask or serves some roll in convincing your target that you really do care about them would is different than actually feeling compassion and producing the behavior that goes along with genuine compassion, no?
Thank you for making the distinction between parasitic and predatory behavior. There is such a cloud of confusion about so many of the finer details of psychopathy. Then, there is further confusion regarding properly defining and differentiating the two strategies. Your sketch from In Cold Blood illustrates that perfectly at the high end of their violent behaviour.
It sends chills up the spine. It seems like there is a lot on the table with this topic. When you have someone like Bernie Madoff or a high ranking politician thrown into the mix, compared to someone like a body parts collecting serial killer it certainly makes for a very hard to piece together picture. It always seems, even after this long trying to understand what they are really all about, it always just beyond my reach! Like trying to catch a soap bubble, as soon ss you do it pops. Therefore, no you people that call yourselves the normal and the standard have to realize that if you have gone thru such a traumatic event where you are actually capable of doing such a thing then something must have changed radically in the way that your brain works.
May, you are inacurate in many of your observations and conclusions. It would be a very limited existence to have this void of feeling for everyone, though, on a permanent basis. I imagine most people have experienced this state of apathy or no feeling, for everyone, at one time or another usually due to stress or illness.
We have also experienced ego dystonia and ego inflation to some degree at one time another, too, usually due to unique and temporary circumstances. I am using the royal we, hoping that most here would agree. They are all unpleasant states of being for normals, because these states drive a wedge between us.
It is our connection to others that extends and expands our emotional reach, bumps up our joy. Imagine May, if you could not only experience your own excitement but could also experience ecstatic states through the empathetic response. You can live your own emotional life and the emotional life of others. It is a very rich experience as compared to the cramped austerity of the pathological.
Of course the downside is normal also feel their own pain and the pain of others. My concerns are that we correct and improve the English and they get marked on our corrections, some have been redirected what mark to they get then? The premise may not understand the wiki concept - people don't own articles here, they are collaborative efforts. Secretlondon , Jan 21, UTC. I have taken the liberty to write on his talk page and to email him.
Hopefully he'll show up and can provide some reassurances and perhaps we can all gain some enlightenment. Thank you all for your interest in this experiment. Please do not about students being graded on work they didn't do. I will be looking at page histories, user contribution lists, as well as narrative response papers in assessing. I would think that wikipedians would understand that writing has value beyond the finished product, and have faith that people can be given credit for participating in collaboration.
One of the biggest frustrations of writing teachers is finding assignments to give where the writing actually matters. I work with vocational high school students who are learning a wealth of specialized knowledge worth sharing. Some of them, obviously, struggle with writing. They are the ones who need their writing to matter the most, or they won't take it seriously. I do now see a number of aspects of the assignment that should be reworked, which I could not have foreseen without letting students giving it a shot.
I opted not to have them work up drafts in MS-Word because it would have been a nightmare to explain why formatting doesn't tranfer. Even with a demo and basic guide, many are confused by the mark-up. In the future, I may have to save this project for more proficient writers. I do like the idea of temporary pages. Is there a protocol for doing that? Would it work to create links to obscurely named articles, then change the titles to their real names when completed?
Other ideas? How about letting the google search be directly from the main page? Instead of the frustration of entering a search and then having to accept a google search which b. I've always wistfully looked to the day when Wikipedia would be able to take established encyclopedias head-on. Just now, I looked up Encarta, and found that their biggest edition has less than 70, articles!
In two years, we've created more than 2 and a half times the number of articles in Microsoft's encyclopedia. Well done, Wikipedians! Can anyone spot what I've done incorrectly on the John Hanson disambiguation page. The links to minor Hansons show up as missing articles. When I click on one e. The reverse seems OK, in that the [[John Hanson musician ]] list of what links here shows the disabiguation page.
I've built several of these disambig pages but never encountered this problem before. I previously posted this on Wikipedia talk:Arbitrators , and I am also posting it on Wikipedia:Policies and guidelines , and maybe the mailing list. Jack , 23 Jan UTC. Obviously i'm confused, bcz i'm convinced i've found some sort of anamoly in the system. I believe the only action i took was using "Move this page" to reverse what i thot and would still think, but for the inexplicable situation i now see was another editor's "Move this page" action.
In a line, neither List of people by name: Mas-Maz nor List of people by name: Mas now includes the history. Yesterday there was an "article", List of people by name: Mas-Maz or Mas-Maz hereinafter, "the original"; not a conventional article, but a page in the article name-space that was and i think again is; this note is more urgent than checking a leaf in the tree whose root is List of people by name.
The following extract from about , Jan 21 reflects an effort by another editor to turn that leaf into 4 new leaves, to replace the original i. I think i like the other editor's concept, but it needs to be checked, repaired, and evaluated, at leisure, rather than as done, on the copy that is in use.
I am mystified by the two earliest entries, which appear to me to imply the need for a deletion of List of people by name: Mas if the two entries above them really reflect a single? I am more mystified by the fact that my "Move this page" of Mas back to Mas-Maz , which i understand to have succeeded bcz of Mas-Maz being a history-less link, lacks any history but the other editor's move.
Yes, i understand why it doesn't reflect both moves, tho i heartily disapprove of that design decision. While not definitive, this helps bolster my illusion of having a dim grasp of what's going on: related stuff that's obviously a place to look.
I am loath to do anything toward rehabilitation of the data structure and names without resolving the history problem, tho of course users will before too long track mud all over it anyway. But i shouldn't have needed to check: my plan after my "move this page" was to revert to my own last edit, which would have hidden the main and probably all links thru the tree to the new leaves; if the history had been intact as i expected, i'd have had the old version to revert to, and i forgot that having nothing to revert to was what led to this appeal.
How should we be marking births and deaths on the anniversary pages? YYYY each page seems to be different. I can't find any policy on this in the manual of style. Fabiform , 21 Jan UTC. In that section, if the person born then has since passed on, it's common to list the year of their death.
In what manner should this indication be given. Of the above options, d. YYYY is my preference. The English Wikipedia seems to be the only one still up. Does anybody know what is going on? Andres , 24 Jan UTC. I've found a beautiful photo online that would be perfect for an article I've been working on while wikipedia's been down.
Is there a standard letter I could adapt when I email to ask the copyright holder if they would be willing to release a smaller version of the picture under the GNU License? Thanks for the offer. Yes, it does seem like merely knowing your subject and being able to write about it isn't quite good enough around here, but I don't want to cause trouble with my edits.
They say the same thing, only the way I said it is far more clear. Merging will merely produce confusion. If there were, I would have said so. What does exist are numerous versions of meantone tuning, of which this is one. There's a thought--move it to the talk page, and explain the problem you find with it.
Should this be done with matter and it is out there which is plainly erroneous? If you know something about the subject, you should know enough about it to be able to increase the length of the article rather than decrease it.
Instead of removing some content now with the intention of adding more later, just delay deleting until you have time to add. Consider it a courtesy to our weird culture. If you must delete content, you should mention it in the talk page and in the edit summary. The changes to the article did add information, but also removed information which this user thought was unnecessary.
I removed misinformation, and explained what the tuning is in a way which seems to me clearer. I also added the single most important piece of information about the topic, which must be included in any article if it is to make sense, namely, that it is a meantone tuning. What actual information is now gone? I tested the waters in my first attempt at editing a Wikipedia article by choosing something I thought would be uncontroversial--Lucy tuning.
But immediately, it seems, someone changed it back, and then someone else reversed the descision. Is this common? What in the world is going on here? Please don't do any merging unless you understand the topic. I'm a professional mathematician and an expert on musical tuning theory, so some degree of presumption of innocence may be appropriate, and to me at least and I've mentioned this to the tuning list, where the tuning mavens gather, and it has met with approval there it seems this article, while not on a topic of much significance, has been greatly improved by my edit.
I'm afraid I've done some more work, and even added an article; but after all I think the point is to improve the Wikipedia. On the tuning list, it was suggested I take a hard line and tell people please do not change things back unless you first come there, where the experts forgather, and discuss why; but I'm afraid I am just finding out how the system works. But there is a place to find what the expert consensus is on matter related to tuning theory.
Actually, it doesn't say that--it says don't delete useful text. I don't think I did that, but I'm afraid I did some deleting elsewhere. Is the intention to leave the pages bloated and soggy with side issues best addessed in separate articles which already exist? Nothing was suggested about registering a user name. Is it considered acceptable simply to register my own name? Does everything need to be justified in detail? Who is going to check it? What does one do about bad writing?
If I think an article needs major surgery and I'm afraid some clearly do should I put the matter to the talk board for that article, and if I do, will anyone read and reply? Best Buddies International is a prominent internatonal nonprofit organization that establishes one-to-one friendships between student volunteers and persons with intellectual disabilities.
Did the tallest candidate always win the presidential race? Can you e-mail a list and the match-ups in order of year. I am usding this information for a college class. Sir, I want to know whether there is any difference between Dynamo and a generator. I learned that dynamo can be termed for both ac and dc generators, then can we call analternator also a dynamo.
In Tamil Wikipedia, the normal wikipedia formats [[image:file. Could anyone Help in this. Are you cancelling this program? What is going on? Why so sporatic, broken up? What happened to a new program every week? Lesson , how to frustrate the general public, do what you're doing. It's not worth watching if you don't produce something weekly. I suppose you know that, so are you trying to sabotage your own program?
I have to say, I like it when you show the program, but man, this is really frustrating and not worth my time. I can't imagine I'm the only one that feels that way. While updating the Interstate 15 article, I came across an interesting situation.
Both articles contain information about the region near Los Angeles, California , but I don't know enough about the area to merge the articles myself. Also, there's the question of which would be the most appropriate title -- with or without the state name. Is the "Inland Empire" near Portland, Oregon sufficiently well-known to warrant its own entry? If not, I'd think the simpler Inland Empire would be the best place for the article. These creates a tit-for-tat reciprocation loop where both players are getting something they need.
In general, when setting up transfer mechanisms, such as the one here with virtual skills, try to create a natural interdependency between players. Economic mechanisms that encourage players to seek out and interact with other players helps facilitate the friendship equation.
A specific form of positive sum resource is a vote. Each voter has an explicit ownership of their vote and there are usually rules to prevent vote selling. If more voters appear, using the magic of positive sum resources, they also get a vote. Votes are then transformed via a decision mechanism aka voting that determines whether or not some course of action is taken. Voting is a social system for managing politics. They are often talked about as part of the domain of political science and most literature covers a handful of relatively conservative systems plurality, ranked voting, etc.
But once we reframe them in economic terms, we gain a large number of tools for manipulating and building novel prosocial voting economies. In the multiplayer VR game Beartopia, players could build various communal projects for their shared virtual village. However, there was a limited amount of public space and it was undesirable let anyone simply build what they wanted without buy-in from other players.
By putting expiration dates on most public projects, we ensured that with a lack of ongoing public attention, public goods would revert back to the public domain. This helped create persistent long term shared goals for players simply seeking to maintain the status quo. One of the early lessons of the industrial revolution was that division of labor allowed workers to vastly increase their productivity at multi-step tasks. Groups of specialized workers working together were more productive than an equally sized group of generalists.
This pattern for organizing human resources has three interesting attributes that make it pervasive throughout social systems design. Because there are strong penalties associated with the failure of high coordination activities, it takes a huge amount of group trust to pull off the most efficient and complex activities.
If they fail, their reputation with this new group of people is tarnished forever. Leading with high risk, high coordination activities generally will send folks running from your game. So designers need to build a ladder of activities in their game, starting with low trust activities between generalists and moving towards higher trust activities between specialists.
The following illustration from the paper The Trust Spectrum shows the basic progression. From The Trust Spectrum, Koster et al. One response from systems designers is to build systems that allow coordination between specialized players at lower levels of trust. These deskilled actions are coordinated, not by trust, but by an algorithmic often computerized system. A very early version of this was the assembly line. These systems scale to larger groups and can make use of broader labor pools.
If you only care about the output of the system, they can be quite attractive. However, if you care about the experience of the players, there are a couple questionable things happening here.
Deskilling systems are typical low trust systems that are helpful to new players. However, they are unable to facilitate the formation of high trust relationships. This can be harnessed in games through structuring experiences whereby players experience shared struggle early in the formation of a group. In many online games, players have discovered this organically and include it in their guild rituals. When high-retention fleets were studied in Eve Online , a pattern emerged in the fleet manuals often exceeding 80 pages created by these high-functioning organizations.
This playbook of an experience creates high retention in groups through this mechanism of a shared memory and an establishment of interdependence, loyalty, and generosity.
If these traumas are significant enough, they can convey lasting damage onto the social relationships of the group members. We can assume that most in-game traumas are far less significant than real world traumas, but these experiences fall into an unstudied place and it can become hard to determine how much pain is too much.
Further, the coping mechanisms that develop under crisis may not transfer to more peaceful contexts. Therefore the shared trauma of an early experience may have to be continued thematically through the game a game about war continues being about war which then sets a dynamic across the experience that is hard to disrupt.
The challenge then is to carefully calibrate the kind of shared vulnerability — which is likely a very wide design space — and manage a thoughtful transition to more peaceful forms of gameplay that amount to recovery therapy. Because these mechanisms for bonding are explicitly successful within guild contexts, which are tribal contexts, it is not clear whether the benefits persist or are possible without a kind of enemy tribe. Trade increases overall value by allowing exchange between players who own differentiated goods.
For a very brief overview, see the appendix on Trade. A buyer can decide if they are willing to pay the price and the seller by listing the price automatically agrees to the subsequent sale. Auction houses turn both the buyer and seller into low-trust, mechanistic entities.
They can engage with a regularly updated listing of goods, quantities and prices and ignore the human on the other side. Humanity, in the form of face-to-face reciprocal interactions between people with names, histories, desires and culture, has been meticulously eliminated from the process. Too inefficient. This results in immense improvements in material market efficiency.
Selfish players clamor for such features in any game that includes trade. But it is worth asking if it drives the prosocial results that we desire.
One of the great challenges of social design is that many business owners feel that it is an expensive extra. Should game designers play political games and show how social design drives business outcomes? There are immense pitfalls that come from following this pattern. Profit motivated capitalism tends to be incredibly damaging to social systems design. See Dark Patterns below for examples. Prosocial economics explicitly brings the tools of economics into social system design. And it promises to be an effective and scalable means of promoting societal values.
This combination is a honeypot for bad actors. It is easy to imagine ideologically motivated governments, political parties and religious groups who co-opt the functionality of games to inject toxic tribal behaviors into the broader world. Yet treating social systems design as a trade secret is also problematic. So that when things start going off the rails, we can identity and censure those who engage in dark social design patterns.
It is in the light of describing and enforcing ethical standards that we cover some of the darker patterns of prosocial economics. When a complex social phenomena such as trust is measured with proxy metrics, it obfuscates much of its expensive-to-measure nuance. This is exacerbated by the tendency to select proxy metrics because they are easy to measure, not because they are high quality proxies. Subsequently, it is common for optimizers and balancers to start to mistake the proxy metric for the original phenomena.
And as they make the proxy go up, they end up inadvertently damaging the hidden nuance of the original phenomena. Sadly, that nuance often turns out to be the real value we were trying to preserve and grow. Motivational crowding is when a task that someone is intrinsically motivated to perform is instead encouraged with an extrinsic reward. As soon as the extrinsic reward ceases to be given, the person no longer wishes to do the task.
Even if they were excited to originally do it for no explicit reward. Extrinsic motivators are much easier to put into systems.
The game can dole out standardized rewards of commodity goods or currency and they can be triggered in a rote fashion upon the mechanistic completion of a well-defined task. Though intrinsic motivators are more effective, longer lasting and result in higher overall happiness of the person doing the task, they are far more difficult to design, measure and systematize.
The result is that designers tend to rely quite heavily on extrinsic motivators. And in the process, inevitably damage our intrinsic motivations.
This is highly problematic in social spaces, since social interactions tend to be intrinsically motivated and involve nuances unique to each individual relationship. By tracking where each person is on their personal journey through their game progression, through their acquisition of friends, through their micro actions we can create personal models for what they might desire.
Stop designing for populations of average players and start designing for the intrinsic motivations of the individual player. Carefully scope how your metrics are revealed to minimize negative impacts. Instead, I try to keep myself honest by asking several questions periodically. The most likely source of corruption of a prosocial economic system is when it managed by an unreformed capitalist.
An executive who believes in the selfish nature of humanity will tend to replace the core prosocial values with processes that are shortsighted and profit motivated. Those that practice economics — and to a degree modern American capitalism — are heavily invested in an implicit system of self-centered moral values. A well-documented phenomena is that economists behave more selfishly than other professions.
They are less fair, less loyal, less cooperative, more prone to deception, and give less to charity. This appears to also impact executives who use economic framing of problems. In part, this seems to be due to the field of economics attracting selfishly motivated people. But it also appears to be the result of indoctrination. The repetitive doctrine that humans are best modeled as selfish rational optimizers creates a set of selfish social norms that practitioners consciously or subconsciously follow.
The act of studying economics makes you a morally worse human-being by most definitions of morality. The presence of currency itself, and the tracking of it and focusing upon it, seems to lead to rationalizations that justify selfish behavior. We see this in particular in games as a dimension of the above dark pattern, reliance on extrinsic motivators. Pure exposure to extrinsic motivation systems, of which accumulation of currency is one, seems to bend human behavior toward norms that justify maximization of that accumulation.
It is possible that the persistent high exposure to game currency — and as we have stated, almost all games have currencies and tangible economies of some kind — has the same effect that exposure to economics has on economists. These values are embedded at the level of personal and tribal identity, and so in groups they become naturally amplified. When challenged, the result is a blunt dismissal of any information that disagrees with the existing world view and a re-entrenchment in existing beliefs.
One merely needs to read the responses to some of the studies on selfishness in economics to realize this is not an open-minded, self-reflective group. My favorite is that claim that economics is perfect, it is merely all other fields of study that mistakenly train up altruistic, prosocial citizens.
When worldviews clash, those with the more power wins. A powerful executive, indoctrinated in the ways of selfish capitalism, is very likely to dismiss the prosocial value at the heart of social system design. A very difficult argument to win. Even in the face of their market crashing, at no point did they stop and question their selfish worldview.
Instead they doubled down on burning out more players to maximize revenue extraction. This paper is intended as an initial exploration in the domain of prosocial economic game system design.
Much further work is needed to explore, codify, and test these patterns and ones that may be discovered after. Patterns that we identified but have not built out in this paper include: 1 group leveling, 2 friendship resource differentiated resources , 3 incentivizing generosity, 4 nurture play, and 5 expressive orthogonality through fashion.
The effect of loneliness on depression: A meta-analysis. Some but not all aspects of advanced theory of mind predict loneliness. These dimensions have been studied in medical research, but for our purposes we are proposing a conceptual framework of loneliness dimensions most relevant to game behavior:. These limited examples illustrate some of the complexities of loneliness, which represents a rich artistic space rife with subtlety and inner conflict.
It is important to note that not all loneliness is purely social or purely emotional; these are two separate dynamics that combine to produce the emergent sensation of loneliness. When we are talking about prosocial game design, we are, in part, talking about game design systems that address the social pain of loneliness.
By dividing loneliness up into its distinct constituent categories, we can more accurately aim experiences at assuaging specific target areas. Prosocial design has a lot of interesting tools for tackling social loneliness. We have fewer tools for tackling emotional loneliness though this is a fascinating area of further investigation. Economics is one of many potential lenses, or perspectives for understanding a game systems.
As a designer, it is critical you can swap out lenses for examining a problem as needed. For example, you can take a system like player chat and look at it via different lenses and learn something new from each. So what is the economics lens good for? It helps to think of the lens of economics in game design as having a couple basic superpowers. These end up also being its core weaknesses. Almost any game with a heavy systems focus benefits from using economics to balance or tune the systems to achieve a specific aesthetic outcome.
There are several key steps in this process that build upon one another. Now, the clever reader will notice that the balancing step is built upon an unreliable stack. If your definitions are incomplete, your analysis will be flawed. If your analysis is flawed, the initial balance ideas will be impossible to verify. This is particularly challenging when your changes alter the very nature of the virtual world you a measuring.
There less in common here with natural science than might be hoped. The iterative act of balancing an economic system in a virtual space can quickly turns into feedback loops where small errors accumulate. Add in poorly modeled humans as key decision drivers and you can very easily design something that is a bit of a mess. Economies in games are often prone to inexplicable and unexpected exponential failures.
We call these disasters by different names ex: Mudflation, grindy, OP but they are often failures of economic balancing. So we punt and build toy-like economies that are trivially understandable as is the case with most single player games. Or we build systems that are stable short term and a spiralling disaster only if left unmanaged most multiplayer games.
The bigger lesson here is that in practice, economic tools are essential yet unreliable design tools. Especially at scale. So we build systems that compensate and can be balanced despite the flaws in our tools. Perhaps the single most meaningful insight that economics has added to the world is that trade generates material value for society at scale.
The orthodoxy of economics may have poisoned a richer discussion of the topic, but kudos for the acknowledgement the historical practice and clarifying why trade is important.
Trade in games is mostly studied in the context of multiplayer games with player-to-player exchange of virtual items. Though designers have learned many lessons over hundreds of MMOs, it still remains a niche field of practice. In this modern era, many hyper focused, metrics-driven teams try to stamp out trade entirely due to the unmanageable chaos it creates.
This sort of basic barter certainly works, but the logistics are complicated to arrange. So we introduce an intermediate currency and use that to value both resource A and B. Now each person can just set a price for goods they are willing to buy or sell. And then take that excess money to buy the stuff they really want.
This process, when the right conditions exist, can be explosive. Huge amounts of material and human resources gain explicit value and are efficiently send zipping around in complex, somewhat self-organizing system that radically transforms everyone and everything involved.
Capitalism, writ large, has according to some metrics, resulted in some of the greatest increases in human health and stability history has ever known. Trade has a degree of inexorable social physics to its emergence.
Most large scale societies develop it in one form or another; though rarely to the degree of modern capitalism. We see this capitalist explosion in multiplayer games all the time. The basic requirements for barter seem to be:. Once barter is in place and the society is stable enough to create community standards, players develop an emergent currency usually some easily tradable item with a stable supply This is then used to facilitate efficient trade networks. In mere weeks or months there are merchant classes, black markets, trade, commodities, trust networks and more.
Another perspective a lens! Many of the practical issues that weigh upon real-world economics impact game developers less. Game developers benefit from the following factors:. Most economics theory is based off the idea of a rational, self-serving actor.
It merely is treated as a series of side theories that are not broadly integrated into mainstream economic models or policies. It is worth mining these theories to see if any of them are applicable to the design of prosocial economies.
In economics, altruism can be defined as investment in public goods. These are shared resources or investments that benefit multiple people, not an individual owner. Note that altruism and prosocial behavior in trusted relationships are not exactly the same thing. Altruism does not require trust, merely a shared public good. Though shared relationships at the heart of prosocial systems are almost always a public good within the local context of the relationship.
Onto the theories. If people are rational actors, when it comes to public goods, selfish people should act as free riders. Assuming most people are selfish, this would result in public goods being under provided for because most people free ride on the irrational contributions of a few. Examples of this include. However, people free ride less than expected.
They are not purely homo economicus, the selfish man. Cases where they over invest according to self-interest theories include. Not willing to let go of the belief that people are inherently selfish, a variation of the self-interest theory is that people contribute to a public good are in fact getting paid. It is just in the form of non-obvious currency such as prestige.
We now get into outcome-based prosocial preferences. What if people inherently enjoy seeing the well being of others, so they contribute to public goods? Second, such an intrinsic motivator would be a stable source of motivation. No matter what we should keep donating if there is continued need. But prosocial behavior decays with repetition. And people have this distinct tendency to punish the behavior of others. Which is a bit inconsistent with a purely altruistic motivation.
What if we just hate inequality? Especially across different cultural contexts. Okay, what if who we are interacting with matters? Now the theories start to include some basic social psychology like reciprocity in their human models. And some interesting findings start popping up. These observations also lead to the prediction that if more people act prosocially, an individual will be more likely to act prosocially.
So people are conditionally altruistic based off the social norms of the group. A person ends up identifying with a reference group. Now we start moving away from universal models of human behavior and begin to dig into the question of how context aka the institutional environment impact what someone decides to do. I think of this as economists discovering the importance of level design. Additionally, the type of communication you have with the other benefactors of the public good matter.
At this point we are starting to get really close to friendship formation and intensity as an accelerant for trust accumulation. Framing is another name for much of what we do as game designers as we set up contexts for players activities. Finally we roll all the way back around to extrinsic motivators. A community is an ecosystem of agents, who depending on local conditions, take on different social roles. An MMO is notably tricky to build due to technical issues involving server scaling, as well as design issues involving scaling economics, politics, level design, pacing, persistence, and progression.
Yet we see clear counterexamples.Die hard anarchists and libertarians make the same mistake. Just because our current ‘government’ is in reality not a governmnet at all but more a camp capo in servitude of the international oligarchy lead by the jews they assume that there never ever can be such a thing as a good government, or, a real government.